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UFO sobre o aeroporto de O'Hara ?

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UFO over O'Hare Airport?

It sounds like a tired joke--but a group of airline employees insist they are in earnest, and they are upset that neither their bosses nor the government will take them seriously.

A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.

Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over the world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply a reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?

Officials at United professed no knowledge of the Nov. 7 event--which was reported to the airline by as many as a dozen of its own workers--when the Tribune started asking questions recently. But the Federal Aviation Administration said its air traffic control tower at O'Hare did receive a call from a United supervisor asking if controllers had spotted a mysterious elliptical-shaped craft sitting motionless over Concourse C of the United terminal.

No controllers saw the object, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.

The FAA is not conducting a further investigation, Cory said. The theory is the sighting was caused by a "weather phenomenon," she said.

The UFO report has sparked some chuckles among controllers in O'Hare tower.

"To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.

Some of the witnesses, interviewed by the Tribune, said they are upset that neither the government nor the airline is probing the incident.

Whatever the object was, it could have interfered with O'Hare's radar and other equipment, and even created a collision risk, they said.

The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (the term that extraterrestrial-watchers nowadays prefer over Unidentified Flying Object) was first seen by a United ramp worker who was directing back a United plane at Gate C17, according to an account the worker provided to the National UFO Reporting Center.

The sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.

All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be 6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.

Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until shooting off into the clouds.

Witnesses shaken by sighting

"I tend to be scientific by nature, and I don't understand why aliens would hover over a busy airport," said a United mechanic who was in the cockpit of a Boeing 777 that he was taxiing to a maintenance hangar when he observed the metallic-looking object above Gate C17.

"But I know that what I saw and what a lot of other people saw stood out very clearly, and it definitely was not an [Earth] aircraft," the mechanic said.

One United employee appeared emotionally shaken by the sighting and "experienced some religious issues" over it, one co-worker said.

A United manager said he ran outside his office in Concourse B after hearing the report about the sighting on an internal airline radio frequency.

"I stood outside in the gate area not knowing what to think, just trying to figure out what it was," he said. "I knew no one would make a false call like that. But if somebody was bouncing a weather balloon or something else over O'Hare, we had to stop it because it was in very close proximity to our flight operations."

Some joke, others research

The databases of various UFO-watching groups are full of accounts filed by pilots about sightings of unknown aircraft and anomalies that affected navigational equipment onboard planes.

Whether any of the UFO incidents are real or merely the result of individual perceptions, some experts say the events pose a potential safety risk to pilots and their passengers.

"There have been documented cases where safety appears to have been implicated, and more and more we are coming to the point of view that we are dealing with an intelligent phenomenon," said Richard Haines, science director at the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena, a private agency.

"We must be proactive before an aircraft goes down," said Haines, a former chief of the Space Human Factors Office at NASA's Ames Research Center.

Haines is investigating the O'Hare incident. He said he has determined that no weather balloons were launched in the vicinity of O'Hare on Nov. 7.

"It's absurd that the military would be conducting aerial test flights" near the airport, Haines said.

All the witnesses to the O'Hare event, who included at least several pilots, said they are certain based on the disc's appearance and flight characteristics that it was not an airplane, helicopter, weather balloon or any other craft known to man.

United denies UFO report

They're not sure what was hanging out for several minutes in the restricted airspace, but they are upset that no one in power has taken the matter seriously.

A United spokeswoman said there is no record of the UFO report. She said United officials do not recall discussion of any such incident.

"There's nothing in the duty manager log, which is used to report unusual incidents," said United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy. "I checked around. There's no record of anything."

The pilots of the United plane being directed back from Gate C17 also were notified by United personnel of the sighting, and one of the pilots reportedly opened a windscreen in the cockpit to get a better view of the object estimated to be hovering 1,500 feet above the ground.

The object was seen to suddenly accelerate straight up through the solid overcast skies, which the FAA reported had 1,900-foot cloud ceilings at the time.

"It was like somebody punched a hole in the sky," said one United employee.

Witnesses said they had a hard time visually tracking the object as it streaked through the dense clouds.

It left behind an open hole of clear air in the cloud layer, the witnesses said, adding that the hole disappeared within a few minutes.

The United employees interviewed by the Tribune spoke on condition of anonymity.

Some said they were interviewed by United officials and instructed to write reports and draw pictures of what they observed, and that they were advised by United officials to refrain from speaking about what they saw.

Federal agency backtracks
Like United, the FAA originally told the Tribune that it had no information on the alleged UFO sighting. But the federal agency quickly reversed its position after the newspaper filed a Freedom of Information Act request.

An internal FAA review of air-traffic communications tapes, a step toward complying with the Tribune request, turned up the call by the United supervisor to an FAA manager in the airport tower, Cory said.

Cory said the weather might have factored into what the witnesses thought they saw.

"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," she said. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low [cloud] ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things. That's our take on it."


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Hello you ablas egipicio?
pô meu é muito chato ler o título da mensagem em português e entrar e não entender )quase( nada + não precisam traduzir não apenas ponham o título da mensagem na mesma lígua do texto

É pedir muito?
A proposito bem vindo de volta Apod o ano mal começou e muitos resolveram retornar
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Ai esta mais um caso e contado, penso que o podemos discutir em condições e ao mesmo tempo praticar um pouco teorias, pensamentos ou ideias acerca do mesmo.

Para alguns para quem o Inglês é complicado, paciência, se alguém quiser traduzir, força, agora, nós responsaveis, não podemos obrigar a quem poste que traduza, eu mesmo já coloquei muitos artigos em Inglês.

Em relação ao caso ai vão as minhas primeiras notas:

He said he has determined that no weather balloons were launched in the vicinity of O'Hare on Nov. 7.

Ok primeira pista, segundo este sr não foram lançados balões, mas como é que ele o confirmou?

"I tend to be scientific by nature, and I don't understand why aliens would hover over a busy airport,"

and it definitely was not an [Earth] aircraft


Pois, eu também concordo.

It's absurd that the military would be conducting aerial test flights

Se calhar por ser absurdo seria um óptimo teste, talvez treino de módulos de aviões satélite? Experimentar cameras, medir alturas de voos de outros aviões et...(?)

"There's nothing in the duty manager log, which is used to report unusual incidents," said United spokeswoman Megan McCarthy. "I checked around. There's no record of anything."

Quanto a isto tenho as minhas dúvidas.

The pilots of the United plane being directed back from Gate C17 also were notified by United personnel of the sighting, and one of the pilots reportedly opened a windscreen in the cockpit to get a better view of the object estimated to be hovering 1,500 feet above the ground.

Para mim um bom indicio que alguma coisa estava realmente lá, mas de onde vem a fonte desta noticia? As fontes são sempre meio caminho andado para podermos fazer uma avaliação da credibilidade do caso.

Some said they were interviewed by United officials and instructed to write reports and draw pictures of what they observed, and that they were advised by United officials to refrain from speaking about what they saw

Procedimento normal, inquérito aberto,não se fazem declarações, normalissimo.


"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," she said. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low [cloud] ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," she said. "That night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low [cloud] ceiling and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds, sometimes you can see funny things. That's our take on it."
. That's our take on it."


Ok, é uma teoria válida, mas mais atrás no texto dizem que viram um buraco aberto nas nuvens supostamente feito pelo objecto:

Whatever the object was, it could have interfered with O'Hare's radar and other equipment, and even created a collision risk, they said.

The object was seen to suddenly accelerate straight up through the solid overcast skies, which the FAA reported had 1,900-foot cloud ceilings at the time.

"It was like somebody punched a hole in the sky," said one United employee.


Portanto fenomeno atmosférico dificilmente seria, et's também não me parece, para que que uma entidade que supostamente atravessaria o espaço para aqui chegar ia ficar a fazer, visivel a olho nu por cima de um aeroporto? Se queria observar, nem precisaria de entrar no planeta... portanto não me parece de todo que o fosse, experiencias militares ou privadas de alguma tecnologia nova? Talvez me pareça mais lógico, E a vós ?
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Gostei desta na noticia do 2 link, aliás Apod o primeiro já era

"“To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable,'' he said."
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Melhor em inglês do que nada. E hoje com um dicionariozinho ou um power-translator, qualquer um consegue entender ao menos o grosso.

Teorias, teorias, e teorias.
No controllers saw the object, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.
Não apareceu no radar e nenhum controlador viu. Só isso já desanima.
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O'Hare Airport UFO-More Information
There are still a lot of reports going around the Net about the O'Hare Airport UFO. Several researchers who are usually well informed tell me that in a few days there will be photographs and video of the event. Why has it taken this long? Financial negotiations. This may seem self-serving to you, but think about what you would do if you had film or photography of this event which has been discussed on major media outlets all over the world. Would you give it away, or ask for a fee? How much could this be worth? There have been a few UFO videos which have sold for as much as $20,000.00.
A few days ago, I was informed of an unedited newsroom video which showed a newscaster having a conversation with another newsperson about the O'Hare incident before going live with the story. Some remarkable details are revealed, and I checked this out before sending out the URL. A researcher who has been in the live broadcasting business for many years looked over the video, and assured me that it had every indication of being real. That being said, check it out, you will find it very interesting.

O'Hare newsroom footage video
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Eddy-Britan escreveu:Several researchers who are usually well informed tell me that in a few days there will be photographs and video of the event.
Aguardemos!
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Seria um clone de J.R. Duran?
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Oi pessoal,

Bem, este site parece sensacionalista but what about this... :picoca:

17/01/07 - article 1 c/ fotos
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19/01/07 - article 2 continuação c/ testes nas fotos
Web Page Name


Abçs,

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Valeu meu chapa!
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Ora bem parece que estamos no México a assistir a novela

cá vão os ultimos acontecimentos:

Artigo Original

As far as I can tell, recently (a few hours ago) an image was posted on the ATS (Above Top Secret) UFO Forum, purporting to be the UFO that was hovering over the O’Hare Airport on November 7th of last year. The subscriber writes, “the person who sent this to me claims he shot this at the airport” [O’Hare].

The photograph does indeed appear to be at an airport; the UFO does fall within the description given by one of the witnesses who came forward, and appeared in silhouette on the “Anderson Cooper Show (CNN).“

Moreover, that very rumor (of a photograph) has persisted since the story hit the mainstream media earlier this month; it stands to reason that one does exist given the fact that most everyone these days walks around with a “cellular camera phone.”

All that said, is this an actual image of the UFO over O’Hare, or perhaps a “computer generated” creation? If it is the latter, it certainly is well done; time and further investigation will be required to ascertain corroboration, or to disavow this latest addition of this most fascinating UFO account.

The image seen here was enhanced and cropped to further analyze the object in the picture.
Depois o blog com o nome insuspeitavel de Above Top Secret publica a foto tao badalada:

Imagem


Agora daqui a uns tempos vao aparecer:

Documentos Misteriosos
Militares
Anões
Elefantes Cor de Rosa ( como o Eddy)

Agora a sério o caso esta a desenrolar, a mim o que mais me intriga é o seguinte:

O objecto esteve por cima do aeroporto um bom pedaço, os americanos são como os Japoneses, tem sempre a maquina digital atrás e o raio da unica foto que aparece é de um blog suspeito
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Britan escreveu:Elefantes Cor de Rosa ( como o Eddy)
Isso foi pessoal. Modera ele, modera ele!

A proposito: esse aeroporto seria da Scarlet O'Hara?
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Britan escreveu:Elefantes Cor de Rosa ( como o Eddy)
Ele diz isso pq ja conhece minha tromba...
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Lights 'not of this world' mystery finally 'solved'

Air Force reveals weapons tests that sparked global UFO frenzy


Posted: January 24, 2007
9:22 p.m. Eastern


By Joe Kovacs
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



Zoomed image of mysterious orange light seen Jan. 9 near Van Buren, Ark. (photo: Col. Brian Fields, USAF, ret.)

Mysterious lights in the sky witnessed and photographed by an Air Force colonel who described them as "not of this world" apparently have an explanation of this Earth after all according to the U.S. Air Force, WND can reveal.


LUU-2 flare deploys parachute to float slowly to Earth

Officials say the colorful illuminations seen Jan. 9 over western Arkansas came from special military flares that slowly parachuted to the ground as part of an Air Force training mission involving A-10 aircraft pilots at nearby Fort Chaffee, a base used for testing weaponry.

"We were flying A-10s in that area and they were using flares," Jessica D'Aurizio, chief of public affairs at the 917th Wing of the Air Force Reserve at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, told WND.

She says the flares, which stay lit for about five minutes, produce nearly 2 million candlepower.

"It brightens up the target area," D'Aurizio said. "They go down in parachutes, so they're very bright. That had to be what it was, I'm sure."

As WND exclusively reported last week, F-16 fighter pilot Col. Brian Fields, now retired at 61, was at his Van Buren, Ark., home Jan. 9 when just before 7 p.m., he observed two intensely bright lights as he looked to the southeast close to the horizon.


Zoomed image of mysterious yellow light seen Jan. 9 near Van Buren, Ark. (photo: Col. Brian Fields)

"At first I thought they were landing lights from an aircraft," he said. "As I continued to observe them they began to slowly disappear, then suddenly one reappeared, followed by two, then three. On at least one occasion four or five appeared. Each time they would slowly fade and eventually disappear. This occurred several times and when they would reappear they might do so in differing numbers and in different positions, sometimes in a triangular shape, sometimes stacked on top of each other, sometimes line abreast, etc. When the objects appeared they might stay illuminated 10 or more minutes."


Mysterious yellow lights in triangular formation seen Jan. 9 near Van Buren, Ark. The red lights at right are from a local broadcasting tower (photo: Col. Brian Fields)


He added, "I believe these lights were not of this world, and I feel a duty and responsibility to come forward."

Lt. Col. Pete Gauger, executive staff officer at the 188th Fighter Wing of the Arkansas Air National Guard, confirmed A-10s were on the Fort Chaffee bombing range dropping suspended flares at the time Fields documented the lights some five to ten degrees above the horizon.

"They would drop multiple flares," he said. "That probably solves your mystery. It's beyond coincidence."


A-10 aircraft similar to this were used in a pilot-training mission Jan. 9 in western Arkansas


Gauger said WND's initial report caused a lot of interest among media outlets, especially after being featured on the Drudge Report.

"It was widely read," he said. "I read it, and I didn't immediately tie it in [to the training]."

Fort Chaffee, which is run by the Arkansas Army National Guard, is situated on approximately 61,000 acres not far from Fields' residence in Van Buren.

"Just a small portion of it is for the Air National Guard to fire and test weapons," said Kim Kimmey, chief warrant officer at Fort Chaffee.

According to the Federation of American Scientists Military Analysis Network, A-10 aircraft "have excellent maneuverability at low air speeds and altitude, and are highly accurate weapons-delivery platforms. They can loiter near battle areas for extended periods of time and operate under 1,000-foot ceilings with 1.5-mile visibility. Their wide combat radius and short takeoff and landing capability permit operations in and out of locations near front lines. Using night vision goggles, A-10/ OA-10 pilots can conduct their missions during darkness."

D'Aurizio at Barksdale AFB told WND there were four A-10 planes as part of the training mission the night of Jan. 9, and they used LUU-2 flares.


Schematic illustration of an LUU-2 flare


According to GlobalSecurity.org, "The mechanism has a timer on it that deploys the parachute and ignites the flare candle. The flare candle burns magnesium which burns at high temperature emitting an intense bright white light. The consumption of the aluminum cylinder that contains the flare 'candle' may add some orange to the light."

"I did not know that such 'parachute flares' existed and never considered the possibility," Col. Fields told WND upon learning the reason behind the mysterious lights. "I am grateful, however, that the truth has been determined and those that may have been disturbed by this event will be able to rest."

Fields, a Christian who originally speculated his sighting might have had something to do with End Time prophecies from the Bible, still wants people to remain vigilant.

"Because this event was explained does not change the fact that we live in perilous times – and we must still be awake, alert, and know that a great deception is still coming."

WND's original story sparked a flurry of interest in unexplained phenomena and UFO activity, with many readers saying they had seen or experienced lights similar to those witnessed by Fields.

D'Aurizio said when the flares are deployed, "It's not unusual to have people think there's something strange going on."

Not everyone is quick to accept the Air Force's explanation.

"Are you trying to tell us that a retired Air Force colonel doesn't know the difference between flares and lights from a UFO? But the Air Force trusted him enough to fly F-16s, multi-million dollar jets?" asks Jim Chadbourne of Waterford, Conn. "When are the media going to stop listening to the government's crap and report the truth?"


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Officials say the colorful illuminations seen Jan. 9 over western Arkansas came from special military flares that slowly parachuted to the ground as part of an Air Force training mission involving A-10 aircraft pilots at nearby Fort Chaffee, a base used for testing weaponry.
E por que a explicação só apareceu agora?
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