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Oficiais da Força Aérea dos EUA dizem que aliens estão desarmando bombas nucleares
Seg, 27 Set, 11h54
Tomara… seria mais uma prova de que pode haver vida extraterrestre inteligente mais que nós, pelo visto
Um grupo formado por seis oficiais da Força Aérea dos Estados Unidos ( USAF ) e um pesquisador de OVNIs afirma que extraterrestres têm sobrevoado bases de mísseis e desativado bombas nucleares. Embora a notícia seja um tanto estapafúrdia, esperamos que sim.
Segundo o site TG Daily , os sete irão apresentar um documento contendo testemunhos de mais de 120 antigos oficiais militares apontando para uma intervenção alienígena até meados de 2003. Aparentemente, após isso eles perderam o interesse pelas bases, continua o site.
“A USAF tem mentido sobre os impactos de OVNIs em bases nucleares na segurança nacional e nós temos provas”, afirma o capitão de lançamento Robert Salas, do ICBM – Intercontinental Ballistic and Cruise Missiles. O grupo afirma que os objetos voadores não-identificados têm sobrevoado locais com armas nucleares desde 1948 e que possui documentos que comprovam isso.
Em muitos casos, os mísseis apresentaram mal funcionamento ao mesmo tempo que objetos em formato de disco voavam silenciosamente nas proximidades das bases.
Outro membro do grupo, Charles Halt, afirma ter visto um objeto voador no formato de disco lançando um feixe de luz em direção à base da RAF (Royal Air Force) em Bentwaters, na Inglaterra. Após isso, ele ouviu no rádio que a aeronave teria pousado em uma área de armazenamento de armas nucleares.
Os ex-oficias acreditam que os governos de EUA e Inglaterra abafaram as notícias, utilizando excelente métodos de desinformação. E agora, em quem acreditamos?
Aliens estariam desarmando armas nucleares
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Aliens estariam desarmando armas nucleares
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A pergunta mantém-se: Qual é a fonte da fonte referida?
De qualquer forma, parece que os conhecimentos de ovnilogia desses militares não devem ser dos melhores atendendo ao parágrafo que transcrevo:
"Em muitos casos, os mísseis apresentaram mal funcionamento ao mesmo tempo que objectos em formato de disco voavam silenciosamente nas proximidades das bases."
Todo o principiante nestas coisas dos OVNIs sabe que uma das características principais de um contacto próximo é a falha de sistemas eléctricos.
Naturalmente que, com uma aproximação de um OVNI a uma área cuja base de funcionamento é a energia eléctrica e os sistemas electrónicos, seria quase inevitável as “avarias” de sistemas e a inoperância dos mesmos.
Agora um pequeno aparte e em forma de resposta a este parágrafo do Alexandre; “Tomara… seria mais uma prova de que pode haver vida extraterrestre inteligente mais que nós, pelo visto”
Sempre achei interessante a aversão que as pessoas têm aos militares (ou não seja eu um).
Os militares servem de bode expiatório e de plastron contra os “encobrimentos” da ovnilogia (e não só).
Já várias vezes referi este aspecto, que é o de que os militares APENAS cumprem as ordens dos políticos (isto em Estados democráticos).
Ninguém mais capaz, habilitado, e confiável do que a instituição militar para manter segredos, lidar, investigar, catalogar, monitorizar, reconhecer, etc, do que os militares. Afinal de contas que outra instituição tem os mecanismos e tecnologias para tal?
Naturalmente que os militares são a linha da frente relativamente a este tipo de assuntos de segurança nacional e como tal comem por tabela. São como o empregado de balcão que ouvem as maiores ofensas por um produto ser caro, quando eles apenas o estão a vender por ordem de um patrão sem escrúpulos...
Mas quando o Alexandre diz o que disse acima, eu pergunto-lhe:
Para quê a policia, se alguns de nós (felizmente) nunca fomos assaltados?
O Alexandre acha mesmo que é bom que as armas fiquem inoperacionais? Esquece-se que há outros países que esperam a falha de sistemas de defesa de outros para daí tirarem proveito.
E não me venha dizer que se TODOS acabassem com as armas nucleares elas deixariam de ser necessárias porque isso é um engano. O mundo em que vivemos hoje em dia não é utópico, logo haverá sempre outro pronto a obter vantagem da fraqueza de outro.
Por isso, Alexandre, trema no dia em que uma grande potência ficar sem capacidade de resposta nuclear (ou de sistemas de armas convenconais de longo alcance). Nesse dia as outras potências inimigas aproveitar-se-ão dessa fraqueza para a dominar de alguma forma.
Desculpem a derrapagem no tema central deste post mas julgo que de alguma forma a derrapagem tem a ver com o tema.
Se uma entidade extraterrestre alguma vez diminuir a capacidade de resposta de algum país, certamente que esse país e muitos outros terão problemas.
Alexandre, isto não foi de maneira nenhuma, uma critica. O que escreveu é a sua opinião, que eu respeito-a.
O que escrevi foi o meu ponto de vista em relação à sua opinião.
No geral concordo com o seu raciocínio, mas por achar utópico, acho que está errado no contexto mundial actual.
De qualquer forma, parece que os conhecimentos de ovnilogia desses militares não devem ser dos melhores atendendo ao parágrafo que transcrevo:
"Em muitos casos, os mísseis apresentaram mal funcionamento ao mesmo tempo que objectos em formato de disco voavam silenciosamente nas proximidades das bases."
Todo o principiante nestas coisas dos OVNIs sabe que uma das características principais de um contacto próximo é a falha de sistemas eléctricos.
Naturalmente que, com uma aproximação de um OVNI a uma área cuja base de funcionamento é a energia eléctrica e os sistemas electrónicos, seria quase inevitável as “avarias” de sistemas e a inoperância dos mesmos.
Agora um pequeno aparte e em forma de resposta a este parágrafo do Alexandre; “Tomara… seria mais uma prova de que pode haver vida extraterrestre inteligente mais que nós, pelo visto”
Sempre achei interessante a aversão que as pessoas têm aos militares (ou não seja eu um).
Os militares servem de bode expiatório e de plastron contra os “encobrimentos” da ovnilogia (e não só).
Já várias vezes referi este aspecto, que é o de que os militares APENAS cumprem as ordens dos políticos (isto em Estados democráticos).
Ninguém mais capaz, habilitado, e confiável do que a instituição militar para manter segredos, lidar, investigar, catalogar, monitorizar, reconhecer, etc, do que os militares. Afinal de contas que outra instituição tem os mecanismos e tecnologias para tal?
Naturalmente que os militares são a linha da frente relativamente a este tipo de assuntos de segurança nacional e como tal comem por tabela. São como o empregado de balcão que ouvem as maiores ofensas por um produto ser caro, quando eles apenas o estão a vender por ordem de um patrão sem escrúpulos...
Mas quando o Alexandre diz o que disse acima, eu pergunto-lhe:
Para quê a policia, se alguns de nós (felizmente) nunca fomos assaltados?
O Alexandre acha mesmo que é bom que as armas fiquem inoperacionais? Esquece-se que há outros países que esperam a falha de sistemas de defesa de outros para daí tirarem proveito.
E não me venha dizer que se TODOS acabassem com as armas nucleares elas deixariam de ser necessárias porque isso é um engano. O mundo em que vivemos hoje em dia não é utópico, logo haverá sempre outro pronto a obter vantagem da fraqueza de outro.
Por isso, Alexandre, trema no dia em que uma grande potência ficar sem capacidade de resposta nuclear (ou de sistemas de armas convenconais de longo alcance). Nesse dia as outras potências inimigas aproveitar-se-ão dessa fraqueza para a dominar de alguma forma.
Desculpem a derrapagem no tema central deste post mas julgo que de alguma forma a derrapagem tem a ver com o tema.
Se uma entidade extraterrestre alguma vez diminuir a capacidade de resposta de algum país, certamente que esse país e muitos outros terão problemas.
Alexandre, isto não foi de maneira nenhuma, uma critica. O que escreveu é a sua opinião, que eu respeito-a.
O que escrevi foi o meu ponto de vista em relação à sua opinião.
No geral concordo com o seu raciocínio, mas por achar utópico, acho que está errado no contexto mundial actual.
"Não podemos confundir os factos com aquilo que gostaríamos que eles fossem, sob pena de uma investigação séria sobre ovnilogia se transformar numa espécie de devaneio religioso."
de José Manuel Chorão
de José Manuel Chorão
Como diria Jack, O Estripador, vamos por partes.
1) A "fonte" original da referida noticia parece vinda AQUI
Segundo ele o oficial Robert Salas é o responsavel de lançamento de ICBM, ora ICBM é a designação para "intercontinental ballistic missile", o que a noticia não diz é que o incidente foi em 1966 e Robert Salas é agora um oficial aposentado
Segundo Disclosure Project aqui fica fresquinha a entrevista a Robert Salas : Link Original
Clicar no Quadrado Branco para ler :
[spoil]Captain Robert Salas, Testimony
Captain Robert Salas: December 2000 Captain Salas graduated from the Air Force Academy and spent seven years in active duty from 1964 to 1971. He also held positions at Martin Marietta and Rockwell and spent 21 years at the FAA. In the Air Force, he was an air traffic controller and a missile launch officer as well as an engineer on the Titan 3 missiles. He testifies about a UFO incident on the morning of March 16, 1967 where 16 nuclear missiles simultaneously became non-operational at two different launch facilities immediately after guards saw UFOs hovering above. The guards could not identify these objects even though they were only about 30 feet away. The Air Force did an extensive investigation of the incidents and could not find a probable cause. At a debriefing about the incident, an officer from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations required him to sign a non-disclosure form and told him that he was not to talk about the event to anyone including his family or other military staff. At a time during the Cold War when minor technical anomalies were openly communicated amongst the staff, this incident was not and to this day Captain Salas thinks this to be very unusual.
… The UFO incident happened on the morning of March 16, 1967. I was on duty along with my commander Fred Mywald. We were both on duty at Oscar Flight as part of the 490th strategic missile squad and there are five launch control facilities assigned to that particular squadron. We were at Oscar Flight.
It was still dark out and we're sixty feet underground [at the ICBM launch control facility]. It was early in the morning and I received a call from my topside security guard who's the flight security controller and he said that he and some of the guards had been observing some strange lights flying around the site around the launch control facility. He said they were acting very unusual just flying around, and I said, "You mean UFO? He said, well, he didn't know what they were but they were lights and were flying around. They were not airplanes; they weren't making any noise. They were not helicopters; they were making some very strange maneuvers and he couldn't explain it…
It wasn't more than a few minutes- maybe a half hour later- and he calls back and this time he's very frightened; I can tell by the tone of his voice he's very shook up. He says, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate - I'm looking at it right now. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn…"
I immediately went over to my commander who was taking a nap - we have a little cot down there for rest periods - and I was telling him about the telephone call we just received. As I was relating this to him our missiles started shutting down one by one. By shutting down, I mean they went into a "no-go" condition meaning they could not be launched. So we get bells and whistles - a red light no-go condition…
These weapons were Minuteman One missiles and were of course nuclear-tipped warhead missiles.
As they started shutting down, immediately he gets up and we both start querying the status board. We've got the ability to query and determine what the cause of the shutdowns was. As I recall, most of them were guidance and control system failures. And then he started reporting to the command post. In the meantime I called upstairs to find out what the status was of this object and the guard said, well, the object has left - it just left at high speed…
The Air Force did an extensive investigation of the entire incident and was not able to come up with a probable cause for the shutdowns. And I've got quite a few witnesses that will testify to that - we've got a couple of people who worked on the investigative team - and I've got correspondence from the man who actually organized the investigative team. There was no viable explanation for this [shutdown of multiple ICBMs]. Each missile is basically self-supporting. Most of them are powered by commercial power but each missile has its own power generator…
At our site anywhere from six to eight went down but they went down in rapid succession which again is an extremely rare happening. We rarely had more than one missile go down for any reason at all…
After I talked to my guard upstairs, my commander talked to the command post. When he finished talking to the command post he turned to me and said, "The same thing occurred at ECHO Flight." ECHO Flight is another squadron, I'd say probably 50 - 60 miles away from our location but they had the same sort of thing happen. They had UFOs that were hovering, not at the launch control facility but at the actual launch facilities where the missiles are located. They had some maintenance and security people out there at the time and they observed the UFOs at those sites. Now they lost all ten of their weapons - all ten…
It was the same morning. So that morning we lost anywhere from between 16 to 18 ICBMs at the same time UFOs were in the area and were observed by airmen. Those missiles were down the entire day because we've got testimony from Colonel Don Crawford, who relieved the crew at ECHO Flight and he was there when the missiles were being brought up to alert status and he said it took the whole day. So I'm assuming it took our missiles all day to be brought back up also…
I wrote up a report about this incident; it was in my log and I turned it in. When we got to the base we had to report to our squadron commander right away. And in that room with my squadron commander was a fellow from AFOSI (we had an Air Force Office of Special Investigations on the base). He was there in the office with the commander. He asked for my logs and he wanted a quick briefing although it seemed to me he knew pretty much what had happened already. But we gave him a quick briefing and then he asked us both to sign a non-disclosure agreement saying this was classified information- we were not to release this to anybody, and that was it. We couldn't talk; he told us we could not talk about this to anyone, including any of the other crews, our spouses, our family, even amongst each other…
I've got a copy of a telex which we received under FOIA coming from SAC headquarters and coming to Malstrom and other bases right after the morning that happened saying that this incident was of extreme concern to SAC headquarters because they couldn't explain it. Nobody could explain what happened. And yet we never got de-briefed. And we were cleared for very high classification because these are nuclear weapons we're dealing with.
We did get the security incursion alarms at those sites when the missile went down. That is unusual because usually when a missile went down for something like guidance failure, we wouldn't get security incursion alarms, which means a perimeter is breached, an object crossed the fence, or something broke the security alarm system that we had on the perimeter of the launch facility. I did sent out guards to a couple of those facilities to investigate that.
The reason I think this story is very significant is because, going back to August of 1966 at Minot, ND, a very similar thing happened at one of the launch control facilities at Minot Air Force Base. They had the same kind of weapon system that we had - they had M-1 missiles. This [UFO] was observed on radar, there was some communication failure and the object was observed over the launch control facility.
That happened in August 1966 and that's a well-documented incident. About a week prior to my incident, in March 1967, I've got a record of a call from one of the security guards who was out roaming looking at the launch facilities and saw an object very similar to what I just described over the launch facility…
Bob Kominski headed up the organization to look at all aspects of these shutdowns. Kominski relates to me in writing that at some point he was told by his boss that the Air Force said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and in addition do not write a final report." Again, this is very unusual especially in light of the fact that CINC-SAC headquarters was stating that this was of extreme importance to find out exactly what happened here. And yet, the head of the investigative team was told during the investigation to stop the investigation and not to write a final report.....[/spoil]
Curioso o destaque dado pela agência Reuters a tal conferência de Imprensa:
Link Original
Clicar no Quadrado Branco
[spoil]Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:44am EDT
U.S. Nuclear Weapons Have Been Compromised by Unidentified Aerial Objects
PR Newswire
WASHINGTON, Sept. 15
Ex-military men say unknown intruders have monitored and even tampered with American nuclear missiles
Group to call on U.S. Government to reveal the facts
WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby. Six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about these events at the National Press Club and urge the government to publicly confirm their reality.
One of them, ICBM launch officer Captain Robert Salas, was on duty during one missile disruption incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base and was ordered to never discuss it. Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men will provide stunning details about these events, and reveal how the U.S. military responded.
Captain Salas notes, "The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it." Col. Halt adds, "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted—both then and now—to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practiced methods of disinformation."
The group of witnesses and a leading researcher, who has brought them together for the first time, will discuss the national security implications of these and other alarmingly similar incidents and will urge the government to reveal all information about them. This is a public-awareness issue.
Declassified U.S. government documents, to be distributed at the event, now substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948. The press conference will also address present-day concerns about the abuse of government secrecy as well as the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.
WHO: Dwynne Arneson, USAF Lt. Col. Ret., communications center officer-in-charge
Bruce Fenstermacher, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer
Charles Halt, USAF Col. Ret., former deputy base commander
Robert Hastings, researcher and author
Robert Jamison, former USAF nuclear missile targeting officer
Patrick McDonough, former USAF nuclear missile site geodetic surveyor
Jerome Nelson, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer
Robert Salas, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer
WHAT: Noted researcher Robert Hastings, author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, will moderate a distinguished panel of former U.S. Air Force officers involved in UFO incidents at nuclear missile sites near Malmstrom, F.E. Warren, and Walker AFBs, as well as the nuclear weapons depot at RAF Bentwaters.
WHEN: Monday, September 27, 2010
12:30 p.m.
WHERE: National Press Club
Holeman Lounge
Event open to credentialed media and Congressional staff only
SOURCE Former U.S. Air Force Officer Robert Salas, and Researcher Robert Hastings[/spoil]
Reportagem no Larry King e os ditos oficiais
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1) A "fonte" original da referida noticia parece vinda AQUI
Segundo ele o oficial Robert Salas é o responsavel de lançamento de ICBM, ora ICBM é a designação para "intercontinental ballistic missile", o que a noticia não diz é que o incidente foi em 1966 e Robert Salas é agora um oficial aposentado
Segundo Disclosure Project aqui fica fresquinha a entrevista a Robert Salas : Link Original
Clicar no Quadrado Branco para ler :
[spoil]Captain Robert Salas, Testimony
Captain Robert Salas: December 2000 Captain Salas graduated from the Air Force Academy and spent seven years in active duty from 1964 to 1971. He also held positions at Martin Marietta and Rockwell and spent 21 years at the FAA. In the Air Force, he was an air traffic controller and a missile launch officer as well as an engineer on the Titan 3 missiles. He testifies about a UFO incident on the morning of March 16, 1967 where 16 nuclear missiles simultaneously became non-operational at two different launch facilities immediately after guards saw UFOs hovering above. The guards could not identify these objects even though they were only about 30 feet away. The Air Force did an extensive investigation of the incidents and could not find a probable cause. At a debriefing about the incident, an officer from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations required him to sign a non-disclosure form and told him that he was not to talk about the event to anyone including his family or other military staff. At a time during the Cold War when minor technical anomalies were openly communicated amongst the staff, this incident was not and to this day Captain Salas thinks this to be very unusual.
… The UFO incident happened on the morning of March 16, 1967. I was on duty along with my commander Fred Mywald. We were both on duty at Oscar Flight as part of the 490th strategic missile squad and there are five launch control facilities assigned to that particular squadron. We were at Oscar Flight.
It was still dark out and we're sixty feet underground [at the ICBM launch control facility]. It was early in the morning and I received a call from my topside security guard who's the flight security controller and he said that he and some of the guards had been observing some strange lights flying around the site around the launch control facility. He said they were acting very unusual just flying around, and I said, "You mean UFO? He said, well, he didn't know what they were but they were lights and were flying around. They were not airplanes; they weren't making any noise. They were not helicopters; they were making some very strange maneuvers and he couldn't explain it…
It wasn't more than a few minutes- maybe a half hour later- and he calls back and this time he's very frightened; I can tell by the tone of his voice he's very shook up. He says, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate - I'm looking at it right now. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn…"
I immediately went over to my commander who was taking a nap - we have a little cot down there for rest periods - and I was telling him about the telephone call we just received. As I was relating this to him our missiles started shutting down one by one. By shutting down, I mean they went into a "no-go" condition meaning they could not be launched. So we get bells and whistles - a red light no-go condition…
These weapons were Minuteman One missiles and were of course nuclear-tipped warhead missiles.
As they started shutting down, immediately he gets up and we both start querying the status board. We've got the ability to query and determine what the cause of the shutdowns was. As I recall, most of them were guidance and control system failures. And then he started reporting to the command post. In the meantime I called upstairs to find out what the status was of this object and the guard said, well, the object has left - it just left at high speed…
The Air Force did an extensive investigation of the entire incident and was not able to come up with a probable cause for the shutdowns. And I've got quite a few witnesses that will testify to that - we've got a couple of people who worked on the investigative team - and I've got correspondence from the man who actually organized the investigative team. There was no viable explanation for this [shutdown of multiple ICBMs]. Each missile is basically self-supporting. Most of them are powered by commercial power but each missile has its own power generator…
At our site anywhere from six to eight went down but they went down in rapid succession which again is an extremely rare happening. We rarely had more than one missile go down for any reason at all…
After I talked to my guard upstairs, my commander talked to the command post. When he finished talking to the command post he turned to me and said, "The same thing occurred at ECHO Flight." ECHO Flight is another squadron, I'd say probably 50 - 60 miles away from our location but they had the same sort of thing happen. They had UFOs that were hovering, not at the launch control facility but at the actual launch facilities where the missiles are located. They had some maintenance and security people out there at the time and they observed the UFOs at those sites. Now they lost all ten of their weapons - all ten…
It was the same morning. So that morning we lost anywhere from between 16 to 18 ICBMs at the same time UFOs were in the area and were observed by airmen. Those missiles were down the entire day because we've got testimony from Colonel Don Crawford, who relieved the crew at ECHO Flight and he was there when the missiles were being brought up to alert status and he said it took the whole day. So I'm assuming it took our missiles all day to be brought back up also…
I wrote up a report about this incident; it was in my log and I turned it in. When we got to the base we had to report to our squadron commander right away. And in that room with my squadron commander was a fellow from AFOSI (we had an Air Force Office of Special Investigations on the base). He was there in the office with the commander. He asked for my logs and he wanted a quick briefing although it seemed to me he knew pretty much what had happened already. But we gave him a quick briefing and then he asked us both to sign a non-disclosure agreement saying this was classified information- we were not to release this to anybody, and that was it. We couldn't talk; he told us we could not talk about this to anyone, including any of the other crews, our spouses, our family, even amongst each other…
I've got a copy of a telex which we received under FOIA coming from SAC headquarters and coming to Malstrom and other bases right after the morning that happened saying that this incident was of extreme concern to SAC headquarters because they couldn't explain it. Nobody could explain what happened. And yet we never got de-briefed. And we were cleared for very high classification because these are nuclear weapons we're dealing with.
We did get the security incursion alarms at those sites when the missile went down. That is unusual because usually when a missile went down for something like guidance failure, we wouldn't get security incursion alarms, which means a perimeter is breached, an object crossed the fence, or something broke the security alarm system that we had on the perimeter of the launch facility. I did sent out guards to a couple of those facilities to investigate that.
The reason I think this story is very significant is because, going back to August of 1966 at Minot, ND, a very similar thing happened at one of the launch control facilities at Minot Air Force Base. They had the same kind of weapon system that we had - they had M-1 missiles. This [UFO] was observed on radar, there was some communication failure and the object was observed over the launch control facility.
That happened in August 1966 and that's a well-documented incident. About a week prior to my incident, in March 1967, I've got a record of a call from one of the security guards who was out roaming looking at the launch facilities and saw an object very similar to what I just described over the launch facility…
Bob Kominski headed up the organization to look at all aspects of these shutdowns. Kominski relates to me in writing that at some point he was told by his boss that the Air Force said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and in addition do not write a final report." Again, this is very unusual especially in light of the fact that CINC-SAC headquarters was stating that this was of extreme importance to find out exactly what happened here. And yet, the head of the investigative team was told during the investigation to stop the investigation and not to write a final report.....[/spoil]
Curioso o destaque dado pela agência Reuters a tal conferência de Imprensa:
Link Original
Clicar no Quadrado Branco
[spoil]Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:44am EDT
U.S. Nuclear Weapons Have Been Compromised by Unidentified Aerial Objects
PR Newswire
WASHINGTON, Sept. 15
Ex-military men say unknown intruders have monitored and even tampered with American nuclear missiles
Group to call on U.S. Government to reveal the facts
WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby. Six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about these events at the National Press Club and urge the government to publicly confirm their reality.
One of them, ICBM launch officer Captain Robert Salas, was on duty during one missile disruption incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base and was ordered to never discuss it. Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men will provide stunning details about these events, and reveal how the U.S. military responded.
Captain Salas notes, "The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it." Col. Halt adds, "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted—both then and now—to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practiced methods of disinformation."
The group of witnesses and a leading researcher, who has brought them together for the first time, will discuss the national security implications of these and other alarmingly similar incidents and will urge the government to reveal all information about them. This is a public-awareness issue.
Declassified U.S. government documents, to be distributed at the event, now substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948. The press conference will also address present-day concerns about the abuse of government secrecy as well as the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.
WHO: Dwynne Arneson, USAF Lt. Col. Ret., communications center officer-in-charge
Bruce Fenstermacher, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer
Charles Halt, USAF Col. Ret., former deputy base commander
Robert Hastings, researcher and author
Robert Jamison, former USAF nuclear missile targeting officer
Patrick McDonough, former USAF nuclear missile site geodetic surveyor
Jerome Nelson, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer
Robert Salas, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer
WHAT: Noted researcher Robert Hastings, author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, will moderate a distinguished panel of former U.S. Air Force officers involved in UFO incidents at nuclear missile sites near Malmstrom, F.E. Warren, and Walker AFBs, as well as the nuclear weapons depot at RAF Bentwaters.
WHEN: Monday, September 27, 2010
12:30 p.m.
WHERE: National Press Club
Holeman Lounge
Event open to credentialed media and Congressional staff only
SOURCE Former U.S. Air Force Officer Robert Salas, and Researcher Robert Hastings[/spoil]
Reportagem no Larry King e os ditos oficiais
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Alexandre
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...Cavaleiro escreveu:A pergunta mantém-se: Qual é a fonte da fonte referida?
De qualquer forma, parece que os conhecimentos de ovnilogia desses militares não devem ser dos melhores atendendo ao parágrafo que transcrevo:
"Em muitos casos, os mísseis apresentaram mal funcionamento ao mesmo tempo que objectos em formato de disco voavam silenciosamente nas proximidades das bases."
Todo o principiante nestas coisas dos OVNIs sabe que uma das características principais de um contacto próximo é a falha de sistemas eléctricos.
Naturalmente que, com uma aproximação de um OVNI a uma área cuja base de funcionamento é a energia eléctrica e os sistemas electrónicos, seria quase inevitável as “avarias” de sistemas e a inoperância dos mesmos.
[quote="cavaleiro]Agora um pequeno aparte e em forma de resposta a este parágrafo do Alexandre; “Tomara… seria mais uma prova de que pode haver vida extraterrestre inteligente mais que nós, pelo visto”
O comentário não foi meu cavaleiro, apenas o transcrevi como está originalmente na notícia.
...cavaleiro escreveu:Mas quando o Alexandre diz o que disse acima, eu pergunto-lhe:
Para quê a policia, se alguns de nós (felizmente) nunca fomos assaltados?
O Alexandre acha mesmo que é bom que as armas fiquem inoperacionais? Esquece-se que há outros países que esperam a falha de sistemas de defesa de outros para daí tirarem proveito.
E não me venha dizer que se TODOS acabassem com as armas nucleares elas deixariam de ser necessárias porque isso é um engano. O mundo em que vivemos hoje em dia não é utópico, logo haverá sempre outro pronto a obter vantagem da fraqueza de outro.
Por isso, Alexandre, trema no dia em que uma grande potência ficar sem capacidade de resposta nuclear (ou de sistemas de armas convenconais de longo alcance). Nesse dia as outras potências inimigas aproveitar-se-ão dessa fraqueza para a dominar de alguma forma.
Aqui reintero...NÃO É O MEU PONTO DE VISTA!!!!!!! este é o ponto de vista de outra pessoa, e esta ao meu ver não avaliou a referida notícia em todo o seu contexto, apenas quis evidenciar a imaturidade do ser humano em criar e manter um tipo de arma sobre a qual não tem nenhum outro controlo senão o do botão de ""liga/desliga"" rsrsrs, acho que é apenas isso, a opinião de um leigo, e não a de um militar/especialista no assunto.
...cavaleiro escreveu:Se uma entidade extraterrestre alguma vez diminuir a capacidade de resposta de algum país, certamente que esse país e muitos outros terão problemas.
Acho que se admitirmos o fato de existirem seres viajantes de outros planetas, quiçá outras galáxias, e admitirmos como verdadeiros os relatos de naves que se movem totalmente alheias às nossas leis de aerodinamica e que deixam nossos caças ""no chinelo"" por si só, já teremos um GRANDE problema!
[/quote]...cavaleiro escreveu:Alexandre, isto não foi de maneira nenhuma, uma critica. O que escreveu é a sua opinião, que eu respeito-a.
O que escrevi foi o meu ponto de vista em relação à sua opinião.
No geral concordo com o seu raciocínio, mas por achar utópico, acho que está errado no contexto mundial actual.
Não por isso...Tá desculpado...fica tranquilo
A resposta à pergunta sobre a fonte - http://br.tecnologia.yahoo.com/article/ ... a-dos.html
A ausência da evidência não significa evidência da ausência.
Carl Sagan
Bem-aventurados os que não viram e creram.
Jesus Cristo
Carl Sagan
Bem-aventurados os que não viram e creram.
Jesus Cristo
Os filmes que a Lulu indicou não vos parecem muito artificiais? Serei só eu a ter esta sensação?
Porque é que um míssil aparece com uma forma triangular tão definida quando o missil na sua estrutura não tem essa forma?
O fumo deixado pelo missil também me parece tão fake.
Já nem falo do OVNI.
No entanto não nos podemos esquecer que os EUA desenvolveram já um laser que tem a capacidade para abater granadas de morteiros, misseis e satélites. Tudo isto já testado e divulgado.
Vejam abaixo:
[align=center]Laser anti granada de morteiro:
(terra-ar)
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Laser anti missil:
(ar-ar)
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Não viram neste filme algo familiar???
Não encontrei o filme sobre a abate do satélte que ocorreu à relativamaente poucos meses.
Porque é que um míssil aparece com uma forma triangular tão definida quando o missil na sua estrutura não tem essa forma?
O fumo deixado pelo missil também me parece tão fake.
Já nem falo do OVNI.
No entanto não nos podemos esquecer que os EUA desenvolveram já um laser que tem a capacidade para abater granadas de morteiros, misseis e satélites. Tudo isto já testado e divulgado.
Vejam abaixo:
[align=center]Laser anti granada de morteiro:
(terra-ar)
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Laser anti missil:
(ar-ar)
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Não viram neste filme algo familiar???
Não encontrei o filme sobre a abate do satélte que ocorreu à relativamaente poucos meses.
"Não podemos confundir os factos com aquilo que gostaríamos que eles fossem, sob pena de uma investigação séria sobre ovnilogia se transformar numa espécie de devaneio religioso."
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SpaceGhost
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Em 00:23 está escrito que é uma simulação animada, no vídeo.
Quanto a possíveis desarmamentos de mísseis nucleares por parte de supostos aliens, acredito eu que, nada impede, assim como et´s, os homens de poderem fazer um ótimo uso de tal tecnologia. A nação que possuir uma arma assim digamos, "já ganhou". Eu acho que isso poderia ser obra do ser humano em igual proporção que a seres alienígenas, nós apenas não temos o conhecimento.
Isso levaria àquelas teorias de que os nazistas ainda existem e manipulam essas coisas, mas............
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